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When
Smoke Ran Like Water
Date: 01/18/2003
Subject: Bill Moyers Show
I was so very touched by your presentation on last night's TV show.
I also felt somewhat connected, being from Pittsburgh, having a similar
middle name, Devera, and coming from a Pittsburgh Steel Company family,
(The Levinson Steel Co...the only Jewish one in Pittsburgh).
The company started when my grandfather came to Pittsburgh from Russia
and began collecting scrap, iron and junk with his horse and wagon....one
of those miracle stories from the past.
I left Pittsburgh in 1949 at the age of 18, not because of the smog, but
because I feel in love with a young Rabbinic Student from Cincinnati.
We met at Emma Kaufman Camp in Harmony, Pa. in 1948. I was a counselor
in training, still having one more year at Taylor Allderdice, while he
was the student Camp Rabbi.
Upon his ordination we moved to Boston and have been living here for almost
53 years. I didn't mean to get into my life...it all just spilled out.
I wanted to congratulate you on your wonderful life and fantastic achievements.
Very Sincerely Yours,
Netta G—
Dear Netta:
Shabbat Shalom...and thank you for these kinds words. I will be speaking
at the Cambridge Forum in Boston March 12 and hope you might be able to
come. My Zadde also was a scrap dealer/horse drawn peddler, at one point
in his life...
Thank you for sharing your experiences/observations....we are hoping to
add to our web site to include such touching remembrances...
Devra
Date: 01/18/2003
Subject: Breast Cancer Correlation
Hi,
I saw your interview on Bill Moyer's NOW (PBS) tonight.
Your discussion with the interviewer on correlating breast cancer with
solvents reminded me of a Vietnamese friend of mine. She is a breast cancer
survivor who works part time in the cosmetology field (specifically doing
Manicures and pedicures where a lot of solvents are used).
If Vietnamese women normally have a low incidence of breast cancer, but
those who work in the cosmetology field have a high incidence of cancer
I would imagine that this would offer a correlation of cancer with solvents?
Best Regards,
Kevin H—
Dear Kevin:
Thank you for writing to me. You are correct to think about this association.
Cosmetologists have a higher risk of breast cancer....and the things they
work with are certainly implicated. We need to do more research on this
and to have a greater understanding and awareness of the risks in these
and other professions.
Devra
Date: 01/17/2003
Subject: PVC
Dear Ms. Davis,
Polyvinyl chloride is one of the most widely used consumer plastics. Pure
PVC, as I understand it, is a hard and brittle plastic. To make it flexible
so that it can be used in fabric sheets, toys and other plastic products,
plasticizers are added.
In time, probably several years or less, the plasticizers "evaporate"
out of the PVC. One possible use of PVC fabric is the dashboard covering
of automobiles. Have you ever noticed the film that accumulates on the
inside of the windshield? Is this just road grime or is it the plasticizer
from the PVC ?
We spend a lot of time in cars. If this film is plasticizer material and
we are breathing it, often for several hours a day, is it harmful ? No
doubt the plastics manufacturers, auto companies and the Federal Government
will say it either doesn't exist or is harmless.
There are several plasticizers used. Could you check the MSDS sheets for
them and see if they are listed carcinogens?
Sincerely,
Robert F—
Date: 01/21/2003
Subject: NOW with Bill Moyers
Dear Ms. Davis,
I listened to the interview of you on Bill Moyer's excellent program,
NOW, on Friday night. You are an impressive lady. You are not only beautiful
on the outside, but show great inner beauty also.
Good luck on your noble mission. Before becoming an attorney, now specializing
in civil rights discrimination law, I was a journalist with a passion
for environmental causes. How I would have liked to interview you!
Sincerely,
Tom W—
Date:
01/22/2003
Subject: Toxins
Dear Dr. Davis,
Yesterday I began reading your book, "When Smoke Ran Like Water,"
I am so excited to have found it--the information is fascinating.
I would like to ask whether you could direct me to any current research
studies regarding pollution/environmental toxins' correlation to emotional
and/or neurological disorders. I grew up in Elizabeth Township in the
Monongahela Valley. I left the area for college at 18 and from there moved
to Washington, DC. I am now 35 years old.
Last summer I determined I was carrying several heavy metals in my body
including one that is particular to steelmaking, coalmining and ironworking--Manganese.
I had been struggling for over a decade with increasingly severe health
issues. Prior to ridding the metals I was dealing with some very noticeable
symptoms including Parkinson-like tremors.
I think this issue is important, but many around me dismiss it. I would
like to find others who believe in the connection and serious effects
from industry's waste on health and mortality.
I would also like to find a way to be participating and creating/sending
a message for awareness.
Sincerely,
Miriam B—
Dear Miriam
Interestingly, a family member of mine was taken to the hospital this
past weekend. She apparently has pneumonia in one lung, and severe scarring
was found in both lungs as well. (Details still to be determined.) The
pulmonary specialist inquired about her work environment... I am very
curious to find out more as well…
Devra
Date: 01/31/2003
Subject: Mentor
Dear Dr. Davis,
Your work is so important. I consider you a mentor - someone who I can
look up to and admire your courage and your work.
Have you noticed that outspoken environmentalists/activists seem to be
disproportionately female?
Thanks,
Sandy R—
Date: 02/10/2003
Subject: Air Pollution
Dear Devra,
I just listened to your program on the Daine Rehm show. Air pollution
is a far more serious global problem than most people and the media recognize.
(Please see http://www.eco-systems.org/air_pollution_and_dying_forests.htm
)
For the past 32 years I have been observing and documenting the steadily
worsening damage of chronic, widespread air pollution on trees and forests.
The effects of this chronic pollution is accumulating in the soils and
is greatly shortening the life of trees and making them far more susceptible
to insects and disease or outright death from no obvious cause. I became
so concerned that I gave up my domestic and international forestry consulting
to develop new techniques and technology to encourage less polluting forms
of transportation.
Thank you for your good work to make the public more aware.
Gerry H—
Date: 02/10/2003
Subject: Pittsburgh
Dear Devra,
I heard your interview about the Donora smoke (or smog) disaster on the
Diane Rehm show. I lived in Pittsburgh at that time and was well aware
of the event. You spoke of a Sister of the Convent of St. Joseph. Coincidentally,
yesterday I received noticed of the death, Saturday, February 8, of a
friend who was a native of Donora. She had left before that time and would
have been unaffected, but I think some of her family lived there.
I had a cousin who worked in the Donora mill, and died in the early fifties,
probably around the age of forty. I also worked as a food supervisor at
several mills in the area and was well aware of the problems of rotating
shifts, though none of the male members of my family worked in them.
I'm going now to look for the book.
Sincerely,
M—
Date: 02/10/2003
Subject: Pittsburgh
Dear Devra,
Thank you for the important, interesting material about diesel pollution.
I hope many of our "decision-makers' become aware of the problem
and act toward reducing particulate pollution.
I am curious about how much switching to hydrogen fuel will solve our
problems. I believe that generating hydrogen (say by electrolysis of water)
requires at least as much energy as the hydrogen can release. If I were
a biochemist, I would try to develop bacteria or algae that could generate
free hydrogen.
Looking forward to a future of clean air and adequate energy. There's
no free lunch.
Thanks again,
Alan S—
Date: 02/11/2003
Subject: Suggestions
Dear Devra,
Having read your book, let me say I agree with everything you say. However,
in the interest of being more effective, I'd like to make a number of
suggestions.
As you are probably aware, the definition of a problem and the terminology
we employ frequently affects the solutions we arrive at. For that reason,
you might consider some common terms for revision. For example, "WHO-recommended
levels of air pollution" might be better phrased as "allowable,"
"acceptable" or "tolerable." For another: "saving
lives" is a misnomer since every life is ultimately "lost"
or given up. So, the argument would be stronger if the consequence of
certain behavior were more precisely defined. "Premature deaths"
and "lives cut short" are really what we are concerned about,
though there do seem to be a considerable number of people who consider
a fewer number of people to be preferable as long as that number includes
themselves. Somehow, the prevalence of premature deaths does not seem
sufficient to change certain behaviors. How else to explain the 45,000
annual auto-related fatalities in the U.S. However much we would like
to think that it does, other people's mistakes do not much affect individual
behavior. It is success that leads to emulation.
I don't think there has been enough focus on the probably consequence
of large numbers of people dying prematurely. I do think that there are
some people, including those responsible for social policy, who consider
the demise of large numbers of Africans and other third world populations
a good thing. What they fail to consider is that absent the transmission
of skills and social institutions from one generation to the next, as
a consequence of premature death because of AIDS or famine, the remaining
population will neither thrive or vanish. Rather, without social support,
the natural behavior for humans, as it is for all other creatures is predation--to
take what they want when they want by force, or die in the process. If
humans have nothing anyone else wants to exchange for what they need to
survive, their predatory nature is bound to come to the fore. Which brings
me to the conclusion that the alternative to economic behavior is not
simple subsistence, but predation and waste.
Predators are inherently wasteful. That this fact tends to escape human
observation is probably a consequence that organic wastes tend to be scavenged
by other organisms. What one creature leaves behind another uses up.
The problem with humans is that, having divined the processes of material
accumulation and transformation, much of what we leave behind is not useful,
or even poisonous to other creatures. Nevertheless, it is true that "one
man's waste is another's treasure" and perhaps the only reason there
is little recognition of this fact in our national accounting is because
economists, for some reason, have failed to take the fate of waste into
account. If, instead of categorizing private production as a positive
and governmental enterprise (including building roads and providing public
services) as a negative that detracts from the overall accounts, private
and public expenditures were calculated in terms of their contribution
to public welfare and health, recently and in the future, then any increase
in waste (household, hazardous, abandoned or dumped) would provide a clear
indication that economic behavior is lessening, rather than increasing.
Taking waste into account would also make data more realistic and make
it more likely that economic predictions are verified by experience. Economies
develop to the extent that waste is avoided.
Furthermore, the haphazard deposition of waste is really an issue of equity.
When wastes are not properly processed by those who leave them behind,
someone else, probably someone with little expertise, bears the cost of
cleaning things (windows, clothes, water, air, lungs) up. Cost-benefit
analysis is a valid concept, but only if the costs are borne by those
who benefit; not when the costs are shifted elsewhere or to another generation.
What has happened to individual human freedom when the waters in lakes,
rivers and streams are not fit to drink. The fact that third world waters
are not fit to drink either does not justify pollution from industrial
sources; it merely testifies to the fact that humans have been negligent
of their wastes for a long time.
The "free market" is an attractive concept, in part because
in postulating the individual's freedom to choose, it relieves others
from being responsible for what they produce and promote. But the fact
of the matter is that it isn't possible for an individual to know what
he wants of if the choice is good until AFTER the choice has been made.
Expectation may or may not be validated by experience and, even though
expectation may be based on prior experience, the outcome is never certain.
We like to think we know what we want and what will happen, probably because
the brain records a sense of satisfaction when events coincide with our
expectations, but the fact remains that can't KNOW for certain until AFTER
it happens.
Finally, I was particularly taken with your presentation of the work of
Lave and Seskin. It reminded me that about 1979 I bought a book on the
topic of the health effects of pollution which I then made the mistake
of lending to the City Manager of the north Florida city I had recently
moved to. A mistake because he never returned it and my arguments for
dust abatement and ground-water protection did not make much headway.
Since I was particularly impressed by the information presented in that
book about the role of dust-born pollutants in such southern afflictions
as TB and other pulmonary diseases, I don't know if it is the same. I
will try again to locate a copy, now that I have a title to start with.
In any event, as you can probably tell, I have considered waste and pollution
from an economic perspective for some time. Particularly after I was told
by a county engineer that it wasn't "economic to protect the groundwater
from the effluent from the county dump" and I came to understand
that what he meant was that there was no money to be made if the residents
of the surrounding area continued to draw water from their own shallow
wells. In other words, economic activity is behavior that involves the
use of money and economic development means to increasing transition from
self-sufficiency to dependence on the "free market." After much
thought I don't accept that definition. From my perspective, economic
behavior is characterized by the avoidance of waste by trading and exchanging
what we don't want with others. Money makes this process more efficient
but it isn't a necessary ingredient. Indeed, as the Third World has amply
demonstrated, the presence of money does not guarantee economic development.
Sorry to have run on so. Unlike yours, my argument still hasn't achieved
the desired coherence.
Sincerely,
Hannah S—
Date: 02/12/2003
Subject: Lung Cancer
Dear Devra,
My wife had heard the NPR story about the captioned. I lived in Monessen,
Pa from 1963 through1985. My dad died in 1966 at age 52 from lung cancer.
He was a healthy, strapping man who never smoked.
To this day, I’m not sure whether he died from asbestos exposure,
or exposure to airborne carcinogens. I remember growing up in that area.
Wheeling Pittsburgh Steel was the main employer. Everyday the mill poured
out tons of “dirty smoke” . We would wash our car in the evening,
and by the next morning, it was covered in a reddish dust.
I moved to Northern Michigan in the mid eighties, and people were surprised
when I commented on how blue the sky was in this state. Unfortunately,
for the 22 years I spent in Monessen, I very seldom saw a blue sky…..
Equally miserable was the condition of the Mon River. I used to fish in
the river (the only thing that could live in it were Carp & Catfish).
The smell of the river was terrible. Worse yet was the black/brown shoreline.
Sincerely,
S—
Date: 02/13/2003
Subject: Roselawn Terrace
Dear Devra,
Your smoke running like water book was one of two I have taken with me
on four recent trips for pure intrinsic reading interest. (My wife bought
it for me, perhaps because we both happened to live in Pittsburgh in 1948.*)
I have just finished it and enjoyed (if that's the right word) it greatly.
I'm proud that you are here at CMU.
Sincerely,
Robyn D—
*I lived on Roselawn Terrace. We (9-13 year-old boys) used to play pick-up
baseball/softball games with other kids and some older people in what
was then a field extending from Margaret Morrison adjacent to Forbes--until
the muck started rising (usually around 4:15 or so) and obscured everything.
I recall not being surprised to hear on the radio that something awful
was going on nearby the first day the Donora smog was mentioned, because
even here the muck was unusual--much browner than usual. Probably just
a coincidence. I also recall instructions to lock all your windows, go
into a closed bathroom if you have trouble breathing, and then a closet
if that didn't work. Probably just a retrospective distortion. Ever hear
of such public health instructions?
Anyway, while I have seen vivid pictures specific to Donora, and know
that the immediate death rate was much high there than elsewhere, my memory
is that there was concern and worry throughout the entire city. That could
also, however, be a retrospective distortion--especially because I had
relatives who lived close to Donora who might have phoned during the immediate
period.
Date: 02/26/2003
Subject: Donora
Dear Devra:
I had no earthly idea that you were from Donora, PA. That explains a lot.
I am currently reading your fantastic book and learning so much and getting
confirmed so much of what I thought. The book is just unbelievable, and
the characters in Part I are so poignant and eloquent. I think of all
the people in Alsen who have been permanently injured or who have died,
and their deaths chalked up to "lifestyle." The documentation
of obstruction throughout the book is so good. I am currently in the breast
cancer section.
If you are planning any promotionals, and I hope that you are, please
consider doing one where I live. We would love to host you and help give
this book some publicity. It is so deserved!
Sincerely,
F—
Date: 04/10/2003
Subject: Environmentally Friendly
Dear Devra:
My question is: do you find that consumers are usually willing to pay
more for environmentally friendly products? For example, if cars/trucks
published their pollution numbers, would people pay more for less pollution?
I've been a member of the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) and they
have published some good articles on greener SUVs. The automakers seem
strongly opposed to making any changes to fix the
SUV loopholes (i.e. poor mileage and tailpipepollution).
UCS has already demonstrated some cost effective changes to light trucks.
The sticker price would probably increase a few hundred dollars but the
cost savings would
pay for it in about 2 years.
When you purchase major applicances, you can usually find an EnergyStar
sticker or find out average operating cost for a refrigerator. Maybe we
should create a new "EnviroStar" program so that consumers have
more information available to find more environmentally-friendly products.
For example, cars and trucks would provide pollution numbers and/or percent
of recycled products used. Electric companies would print on the back
of your statement their current pollution numbers and percent of renewable
energy usage.
Sincerely,
J—
Date: 04/11/2003
Subject: EPA
Dear Devra:
As an EPA employee, I feel compelled to comment. I've just finished reading
your powerful, informative, and insightful book. In many cases, it is
also depressing but both you and I are hopeful that positive actions will
be taken to protect our environment for future generations. While my EPA
responsibilities are no longer directly web related, from 1997 through
2002 I was a member of the EPA's central computer center team supporting
the web infrastructure. I was especially pleased to see your recognition
of the efforts of EPA employees who support the Agency's web site. Since
1998 EPA's Web Work Group has grown from about 50 people to hundreds.
These are the dedicated employees who work in the central computer center,
labs, and program offices to provide the public with environmental information.
To date, my 8 year career with EPA has been involved with providing information
technology type support. During this time I have worked with and become
somewhat familiar with many labs and program offices and their related
web applications and content. However, information contained in your book
has really filled in many gaps about the Agency itself, what these labs
and program offices do, how difficult it is to be a trailblazer in the
area of environmental research, and the very direct relationship between
pollution and many forms of disease and illness. Your book has also inspired
me to read other environmentally related books, particularly Silent Spring.
Thanks again for recognizing the efforts of many dedicated, hard working,
EPA employees.
Sincerely,
John B—
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